Bisimoto H22 header Dyno'd

[justin@bisimoto]

Got something some of you here may like

Took this from another thread that a customer posted up.

Originally Posted by PinoyShadow

Here is my dyno graph and experience with the BISIMOTO H-series header and with Bisi as a tuner:

Because of some stuff that I had to take care of last minute, Bisi started much later than he would have liked to. So due to the time constraints, we had to stop early.

BUT even still, look at what Bisi was able to extract from the motor! This particular motor is internally 100% BONE STOCK, and look at the numbers! The BISIMOTO header, Bisimoto-spec Kinsler ITBs, and Vibrant custom exhaust system combination yielded AWESOME results.



BISIMOTO Engineering FTW

31 whp and 21 ft lbs of torque gained!

Bisi tuned a 100% BONE STOCK internally F20B to 211 whp. That is ridiculous.

The purple graph is of the same exact motor with an RMF header and TWM 52mm ITBs. The Bisimoto header and Bisimoto-spec Kinsler ITB combo absolutely MURDERS the previous combination of RMF and TWM. Both setups were tuned on AEM EMS.

The horsepower gains are nice and smooth up until about 6200 and then they just GROW. The torque gains are wonderful all the way from 2000rpm up. And around 20 ft lbs are gained at 3400 rpm or so. Awesome, absolutely awesome gains.

Bisimoto = awesomeness

[accordracing96]

Hum....where do you find such product?

[justin@bisimoto]

me pick me haha


I can help you in getting one of these for your car. Send me a Pm or give me a call at 888-922-6686 ext.3

[nusdogg]

What's the retail for one of those..?? Around $800.00 or so?

[GhostAccord]

Originally Posted by nusdogg

What's the retail for one of those..?? Around $800.00 or so?

$900-$1300 for the header and $2800 for the Kinsler ITB setup + dyno tuning. Not a bad price for 31 whp on a stock internal F20B.



Did Bisi take a minute to cleanup/check the RMF and TWM tune before he put his stuff on to do the comparison dyno?

[mr wonderfull]

Originally Posted by GhostAccord

$900-$1300 for the header and $2800 for the Kinsler ITB setup + dyno tuning. Not a bad price for 31 whp on a stock internal F20B.



Did Bisi take a minute to cleanup/check the RMF and TWM tune before he put his stuff on to do the comparison dyno?

looks like it needs tuning... also was revved out another 500 rpms.... we DO know what that means right??? setup is reallly pretty...

[GhostAccord]

I read that Bisi did indeed tune the previous setup as well. They are ripping into this header sales thread pretty good on H-T. As usual.

I find it funny that no one has questioned the addition of the XXmm (pos 60mm) Bisi spec kinsler ITB's with a 2 stage injection system. Vs the dyno using the older 52mm single injection TWM ITB setup. Do you think there could be more power found in the extra mm per throttle and the extra injectors? Yes I'm sure the headers perform, but this isn't an equal comparison.

[mr wonderfull]

The point is that theres no point on pointing (LOL) it out to him.... That dyno is in by no means even comparable... But as soon as someone doesnt swallow his nuts, everyones a hater according to his fanbois... LOL...

Every pimply 16 year old kid that has even heard of the insight automatically assumes that everything he says is gospel and NO ONE else on the face of the planet might know what they are talking about well enough to have reasonable doubt... Take the wagovan thread(s) for instance.... Jesus fuck. Now the headers are falling apart, its NOT being adressed well, and people are still gargling his balls just because they are sheep... Thats not even touching the cam issue thing some are having.... He is not a cam MFG.... so he cant warrantee them... gay, but out of his hands...


Anyways
Those power curves look like shit. Am I the only one that sees it? holy fucking loller coaster.... I mean shit, you even said it dude... They arent even comparable, and there is ALOT of info selecetively omited... Par for the course with alot of his retail smokescreen.

I am a fan of the insight and his F effort for sure... as for the rest of it... INCLUDING the fucking sales clowns he has that run around attempting to spew what they consider "tech" gag-choke-puke.

Ill pass.

Its made me seriously re think if ID ever by anything from him. Ity might not matter to all the clowns that throw the "hater" fucking kiddie monicker around... But even 1 person thinking that way SHOULD matter to him.

Hes a smart and really nice guy, but it is what it is. Biased, and stacked testing (once again par for the course) to sell shit. Rememebr, at the end of the day he is a businessman, and Businessmen are in it to make fucking money. Period.

[1993sir]

i personally think that the exhaust and after market ecu are the only things gaining power eh.
a bone stock H22a with absolutely no mods at all will do 165 to 170 whp. and thats not the euro r spec just the basic early, pre obd2 h22a.
euro r spec do 185 to 190 whp bone stock standard.
a simple freeing up of the exhaust with new larger diameter headers and 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipe and good quality free flowing numbers and feeing up the inlet with a simple k&n panel filter will see very close to that same 211whp.
i'm not a hater of this guy bisi or what ever his name is, just sceptical.
this same dyno plot is also in another thread and pics show this motor also has adjustable cam gears, so i would expect far more than 211 hp.
and nearly USD$4000 for a 45 hp gain!? you'd be mad i'm afraid

[GhostAccord]

Originally Posted by mr wonderfull

Rememebr, at the end of the day he is a businessman, and Businessmen are in it to make fucking money. Period.

I hear that!